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September 4th, 2006, 08:18 PM
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Thinking about boosting stock GSR. Please Help
Hey everyone. I was thinking about ,aking power the other day and just came to mind that maybe going turbo would be the ebst way to make power. I want to at least make 350 on a stock gsr block and be reliable. What I need help with is what all is needed to making a stock Gsr motor turbo? What are the major and most important tips. Every single detail please. I would greatly appreciate the help from those who have had experience in the boost area.
I was looking around and saw this kit what do you think?
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September 4th, 2006, 08:34 PM
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full-race kit is a very good choice.
By stock block do you mean stock bottom end (rods/pistons) or just the block? The stock sleeves can take it on a good tune no doubt, but i'd be worried about the rest of the bottom end. If you're serious about making that kind of power though i'd be looking at have Jeff Evans tune it (if you're anywhere near the east coast).
As far as what is needed.. a lot. Manifold, turbo, charge pipes, intercooler, wastegate, bov, couplers, clamps, downpipe, dumptube, GOOD FUEL MANAGEMENT, oil lines.. i'm sure i'm leaving out a few things. That full-race kit isn't an amazing deal but it's a quality kit for sure. You could piece together a kit for 2k or less if you're willing to research but if you're not you're going to have to pay the price for quality.
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September 4th, 2006, 08:51 PM
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yeah, you really need to go with some beefier rods and pistons if your going to make that kinda power, I'm not sure if there is any aftermarket for the crank but it might hold, I've never heard anything about honda cranks breaking.
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September 4th, 2006, 09:05 PM
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stock crank is very stout on Honda's so it's more than up to the task.
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September 4th, 2006, 09:12 PM
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Well the reason I wanted to go with the Full Race kit. Cause it has all that I need to go boost and in the description it sayd entitled for those who dont intend on building there motor and staying stock. Which Is what I want as a daily driver. Are there any other things I will need to get additional besides this kit? Also if someone could make a clean list of everything I would need to get in oder to go turbo. It would once again greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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September 4th, 2006, 09:25 PM
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who has no intentions of heavily building their motor
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I'm sure they mean forged internals that is a lot of power for the stock stuff to handle. I would put down lots of money that the stock rods/pistons would last long if you were making that kind of power. |
September 4th, 2006, 09:31 PM
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September 4th, 2006, 09:50 PM
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Thanx alot!
Seeing as this is so much work wow. What about all motor? Intake Manifold? TB? Head work? What are some good tips on upgrading rite now. What should I get to get some power rite now besides turbo? |
September 4th, 2006, 09:58 PM
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nitrous... or JRSC.
If you're serious about all-motor, talk to A_White_GSR. He had a pretty serious b18C built up and knows a lot more about it than me.
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September 4th, 2006, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by njn63
nitrous... or JRSC.
If you're serious about all-motor, talk to A_White_GSR. He had a pretty serious b18C built up and knows a lot more about it than me.
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Yeah, is you go to make power all motor on something that already kinda lacks low end power than it will suck to drive on the street. |
September 4th, 2006, 11:27 PM
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you can make serious power with an all motor b18c if you do it right and get it tuned right. Ive talked to you before about my motor. The easiest way for you to do it now is to just buy mine. If my friend doenst pick it up its going up for sale to the public. or head to the teg forum my build is in there and theres still more you could do if you wanna go more serious than that. look for my dyno tune thread.
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September 4th, 2006, 11:49 PM
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well, here's the way i see it:
turbo- 275whp for 2-3k
jrsc- 220whp for 1k (or a little over)
all-motor- 205whp for 2k
You can obviously spend more and make more power with either setup or shortcut it but that's just what i've seen seems to be the average.
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September 5th, 2006, 06:24 AM
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September 5th, 2006, 10:25 AM
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If you do high comp internals such as pistons and flat seat valves, stronger rods, rebalanced crank with stage 2 cams etc and add a stroker kit you could push your power output to almost 230whp maybe more on an all motor gs-r. It sure as hell wont be cheap ill tell you that much.
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September 5th, 2006, 12:23 PM
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fwiw the gsr stock block can handle upwards of 400whp, so you wouldnt be stressing it too much at 300whp. The full-race kit has awesome qaulity and the output potential is nice too but you pay for every bit of that. If you are looking to spend a little less but still want a complete kit, peak boost makes a nice kit as well ( www.cheapturbo.com). if thats still a little much you can always browse HT's FI classifieds and piece together your own kit using the information in the thread nick posted.
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September 5th, 2006, 01:37 PM
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my suggestion...
*arp headstuds (if you wanna crack the motor open)
*valvetrain (if you want to go there)
*stock block
*decent turbo kit with all the basics and something like a 60 trim t3/t04e... .63 a/r turbine housing, stg 3 wheel
*aem ems/hondata/crome/uberdata... whatever
*a reputable tuner who's not going to throw a ton of timing into the tune if you want the motor to last.
you don't need a full-race kit or some overly crazy setup to make that kinda power.
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September 5th, 2006, 01:41 PM
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and here's some other setups with power similar to what you posted you wanted:
CRX, Stock B18c, FR stage 1 kit, 345whp/240tq, neptune
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3827
Integra GSR, Stock Gsr block, 342whp/245tq, Peak boost kit
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3798
Ek hatch, Stock gsr, FR stage 1 gt kit, Neptune, 315whp/255t
http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3473
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