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Old July 10th, 2006, 12:30 PM
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my home made turbo set-up

everything you see was free, minus the turbo, its a T25 from an sr20det mint condition with a downpipe and nitake tube-that cost 75 bucks



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Old July 10th, 2006, 12:31 PM
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now i just gotta figure out how to get it by my dad, side mount is what im using, and ill have to make my BOV quiet as a mouse
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Old July 10th, 2006, 12:40 PM
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I have two words for you......

Proper Tuning!





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Old July 10th, 2006, 12:47 PM
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yeah i agree 100% im gonna end up paying 200% more than the cost of the turbo in proper fuel system and multiple dyno passes, i wonder how much efficent power i can pull out of the t25 though....
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your going to run out of steam in the top end man tht turbo is REALLY small.

but tips for quieting the BoV is get a recirulating type like the Type S and plumb it back into the intake of your turbo, not only will you quiet it down a lot it will help with spool between shifts, but if that small a turbo you really don't have to worry about that.

Also if you take the smaller spring out of the Type S it will take away that high pitched lazer like sound it has and it will give a more of SRT/WRX CUUURCH sound like it's realiing air not PPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTtt sound like your attacking alien invaders, but remember you can't do with with a high boost set up as you will leak thru the BOV, but if it's replumbed that will not be too much a problem.

how are you going to have piping made with out your dad knowing your car is gone for a few weeks?
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Old July 10th, 2006, 04:37 PM
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i see 2 really important things missing there.

fuel pump and injectors.
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hey man, if you need it, i got 2 gauges (boost and oil press) that im selling for like 30 each, both new, and ii also have a halman boost controller i might not use, ill sell that for 60-70 dollars. idk if it helps, but maybe you could use my stock injectors if they are larger than what you have now, and same with my stock fuel pump. hit me up or whatever if your interested. oh, and if you want a quiet BOV, get a type S and route it back into the intake, or get one of the turbosmart sleeper series ones. they are quiet as hell.
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Don't get a walbro HP pump when you upgrade your fuel pump, your car will have a hard time running when your fuel gets to 1/2 tank and it might not even run when your near the 1/4 mark. I highly suggest the walbro just get the normal 255 though. Also on injector sizing go to the RC site and you can use their calculator to find the perfect size injector just remember to input the correct fuel pressure as the base number set in the calculator is some insanely high number like 175 PSI or something should be around 43.7 I believe but I'm not sure if that is accurate ask a Type-R guy they will be able to tell you.

Also what are your plans for fuel management? Hondata S200 would be probably the best choice and most people will be able to help you with it as well as a shop to tune for you if you want that.

still not sure how you are going to have custom pipping made without your dad knowing, they kinda need your car for at least a week with everything bolted up to correct measure and make the pipes.

Also might want to have that turbo rebuilt and have th seals redone, and I know the side mount was free but if your would be able to hide a front mount behind a grill and maybe paint it flat black so your dad wouldn't notice? In the long run it would be better for preformance, that or maybe use a foglight hole to make duct to feed that side mount?
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why dont you just tell your dad youre going to install the turbo. i mean, he'll find out sooner or later.
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wow lots of info guys thanks....i know the turbo is small, trust me...i know...however it was 75 bucks, and this is afterall a budget project, intercooler piping will take around an hour to 2 hours, the install of the kit as a whole will take the day, im going to go with a 255 pump and 350 injectors, running an obd2 to obd1 jumper, chipped p28 tuned with neptune...thats the plan for now
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why dont you just tell your dad youre going to install the turbo. i mean, he'll find out sooner or later.
because hes blown up to many turbo cars to let me do one....



kinda sounds liek a warning, im orking on the turbo in my room right now and hes ruight down the hall, not knowing whats up
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lol a day to instal??? ha... ive heard that before. but dude, trust me, it wont take a day. just installing the injectors is a bitch, especially in a cramped little engine bay. im finding it all hard with such a big car, i cant imagine what you will have to go through. also, if your converting to obd1, i think you will have to run either inline resistors or an resistor box for the injectors. also, i hope that you ar able to get to the oil pressure sensor on the back of the motor, because i know i sure cant without getting teh whole inake manifold off, and thats where you have to run your oil feed for the turbo off of.
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lol a day to instal??? ha... ive heard that before. but dude, trust me, it wont take a day. just installing the injectors is a bitch, especially in a cramped little engine bay. im finding it all hard with such a big car, i cant imagine what you will have to go through. also, if your converting to obd1, i think you will have to run either inline resistors or an resistor box for the injectors. also, i hope that you ar able to get to the oil pressure sensor on the back of the motor, because i know i sure cant without getting teh whole inake manifold off, and thats where you have to run your oil feed for the turbo off of.
cramped car? you obviously dont know how much room is left over


injectors are purley a matter of what i decide to go with, if i want to run a set of DSM 450's i need an inline resitor pack, however, im running RC's no resistor box is needed, and for oil feed and return to the pan its simply a matter of pulling the pan and having it tapped. a full day of work for me consists of at least 10 hours, which i will be spendind to get this done, all the pipe will be pre measured and cut, also prewelded. the biggest problem mi going to run into is how to get it tuned within a couple days of getting the turbo on, thats why ill have at least a grand leftover for the jumper, chipped ecu, and full basemap and dynotime from a local shop, THE WHIP FACTORY
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i correct myself, you do need to pull the oil pressure sensor....no biggie


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give yourself a weekend when your dad is going to be out of town to do this. Becuase with that small of a turbo, you wont be able to keep that thing out of boost to even drive it back from the shop, and since your using the ECU to tune instead of a RRFPR or an EIC of somesort a base map will not work for boost. Honestly I would think about this, while your not cutting big corners in the rush to get this in all in a day shit is going to go wrong.

Save up some money, like 5 grand and take your time if you show your dad that you are taking your time and doing this right I'm sure he will let you do it. With a rushed project like this SOMETHING is going to be forgotten, installed too quickly, your going to have a leak something gonna pop up and then once you fix that something else is going to pop up. Even if you get everything done perfectly in 1 day your going to regret using such a small turbo and a small intercooler.

I know you want to turbo and do this and you seem to have thinks planned out, but 10 hours in NOT enough time to even tune this let alone install and tune. Honestly if your dad has done turbo cars hes going to hear the BOV, no matter if you do it as we have suggested it CAN be heard, and your dad will hear it and just get pissed at you and take your car away again.

Work with your dad, show him you have done your research, show him you know what your doing and USE his mistakes to improve upon. Why did his turbo cars fail, his insight will be more then even we can give you.

Learn how to read and plot a compressor map, it's really easy and I can give you a site to teach yourself in less then an hour, make a nice list of everything you will need along with prices and use it as a checklist. Just show him youare taking the right approach to this it will tur out a lot better then you trying to sneak this by him and having him heard you bov when your leaving or coming home 1 day and asking you to pop your hood and finding this.

EDIT: BTW I highly recommend a Koyo or equal quaility radiator, some good slim fans, and other cooling upgrades. people skip past cooling ALL the time without understanding the power you can get and the relability you gain from keeping that engine cool, remember Turbos compress air, compressing air = more heat, and heat robs you of power.
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i agree and thought previously about everything youve said, id like people to know that im in no rush to get thsi on, im just excited to get the parts i got....trust me, when paying 3k+ for an engine swap im not gonna slack on something that has the potential to destroy my investment, thanks for the comments though
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