wrx stages? - Tuner-Junction

Tony_Bolony · #1 (**permalink**) June 4th, 2006, 04:31 PM

well i have tried to search on nasioc but to no avail. what do the stages mean? are they talking about engine management, or tuning? or the size of the turbo?

ezeedee · #2 (**permalink**) June 4th, 2006, 04:50 PM

i have no clue what youre talking about. but im kinda intrested.

triniskill · #3 (**permalink**) June 4th, 2006, 08:43 PM

stages are different setups that are packaged by companys for the wrx's and sti's. Its like the turbo xs utec stage 4 that I have on my wrx. the turbo xs stage kits start from stage 1 to stage 4. There are also the cobb stage kits.
the kits come with different parts depending on the stage of the kit. Like my stage 4...it comes wit:
utec wit stage 4 map boost
turbo xs turbo back exhuast
vf30 turbo
sti pinks (injectors) 550cc
turbo xs up-pipe
turbo xs intercooler - dont remeber but I think this is optional.
warlbro fuel pump.
turbo xs claims the stage4 kit produces 365 crank hp. and about 260whp.
If you want to go with the utec u can buy eveything seperate it will be alot cheaper..which is what I did.

http://www.boxer4racing.com/package.htm look at this site to see the turbo xs stage kits and the vishnu kits.

http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/ go here to see the cobb power packages.. they only go up to stage 2 which is the same as the turbo xs stage 3. these stage kits makes it easy for you to upgrade your wrx's power. and the cobb accessport plugs right into the diagonsist port on your car..It is alot easir to use then the utec.
I hope I didnt confuse anyone. If you want to chat get me on AIM: turbochargedtnt

Disillusioned · #4 (**permalink**) June 4th, 2006, 08:56 PM

vishnu also has staged upgrades. i think they start at stage 0

i have cobb.

stage 1 is just a reflash of the ecu
stage 2 is the flash, and exhaust, either downpipe or full exhaust.

after that, theres the cobb street tuner software.

triniskill · #5 (**permalink**) June 4th, 2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Disillusioned

vishnu also has staged upgrades. i think they start at stage 0

i have cobb.

stage 1 is just a reflash of the ecu
stage 2 is the flash, and exhaust, either downpipe or full exhaust.

after that, theres the cobb street tuner software.

yea..they do have staged upgrades..the cobb is real easy to use..the street tuner is good..but the protuner is better.

this goes to everyone who is going to buy a wrx or a sti..the first mod you should do is to buy engine mangment for your car..the best and safest thing you can do for this cars.

Tony_Bolony · #6 (**permalink**) June 5th, 2006, 12:10 AM

yah, im in the market for an 06 wrx so i wanted to learn about this before i take the plunge and get one. so if you get engine management, and tbe that is considered stage 2? or it is only considered that if you get it through one of the companies that offers it as stage 2?

Mustangeater · #7 (**permalink**) June 7th, 2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ALtronX

yah, im in the market for an 06 wrx so i wanted to learn about this before i take the plunge and get one. so if you get engine management, and tbe that is considered stage 2? or it is only considered that if you get it through one of the companies that offers it as stage 2?

The cobb access port and either a full exhaust or an upipe and down pipe would be stage 2 and it doesnt have to be purchased from cobb. If your lookin to make the turbo spool faster on a stock aplication the best and first mods i would make is a good upipe and a cool air kit like i have, ive got a perrin upipe and a k&n typhoon short ram. It makes it pull realy hard i also have a 2.5" cat back and a manual boost controller the boost controller is not advised without the engine management system though.

Disillusioned · #8 (**permalink**) June 7th, 2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ALtronX

yah, im in the market for an 06 wrx so i wanted to learn about this before i take the plunge and get one. so if you get engine management, and tbe that is considered stage 2? or it is only considered that if you get it through one of the companies that offers it as stage 2?

the different "staged" upgrades differ from company to company. there really is no standard.

XLR8 · #9 (**permalink**) September 12th, 2006, 02:23 AM

365hp to the crank sounds weak for a stage 4.

triniskill · #10 (**permalink**) September 13th, 2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XLR8

365hp to the crank sounds weak for a stage 4.

it may sound weak but from the stock 02 wrx hp of 227hp..365hp is a big difference.

Johnlude85 · #11 (**permalink**) September 13th, 2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangeater

The cobb access port and either a full exhaust or an upipe and down pipe would be stage 2 and it doesnt have to be purchased from cobb. If your lookin to make the turbo spool faster on a stock aplication the best and first mods i would make is a good upipe and a cool air kit like i have, ive got a perrin upipe and a k&n typhoon short ram. It makes it pull realy hard i also have a 2.5" cat back and a manual boost controller the boost controller is not advised without the engine management system though.

does an up pipe make that much of a difference in spool up with a typhoon?

i have to look into that. maybe my next mod wont be the ap, but an up pipe since thats so much cheaper.

Tony_Bolony · #12 (**permalink**) September 13th, 2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnlude85

does an up pipe make that much of a difference in spool up with a typhoon?

i have to look into that. maybe my next mod wont be the ap, but an up pipe since thats so much cheaper.

actually, ap would be your best bet. its a simple mod, and that way when you decide to go with an exhaust, you have the ap already and dont need to worry about any problems you might face by installing an up pipe/ downpipe without being tuned. when i order my downpipe, im gonna get the ap along with it.

Mustangeater · #13 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnlude85

does an up pipe make that much of a difference in spool up with a typhoon?

i have to look into that. maybe my next mod wont be the ap, but an up pipe since thats so much cheaper.

Yes with an uppipe and the typhoon its makes a big diffrence, i have sinse installed a down pipe so my spool up time has increased even more, my turbo spools from almost an idle now. IMO first mods typhoon and uppipe, i have read alot about first mods and most will tell you uppipe and down pipe that will make the biggest difference, no sense in having an access port if you dont have the flow

triniskill · #14 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2006, 08:23 PM

acutally you dont have to change your ...STI's dont have cat's on the uppipe..so its not retrictive....your better off with the ap.

Disillusioned · #15 (**permalink**) September 15th, 2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by triniskill

acutally you dont have to change your ...STI's dont have cat's on the uppipe..so its not retrictive....your better off with the ap.

quoted for truth

Tony_Bolony · #16 (**permalink**) September 15th, 2006, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by triniskill

acutally you dont have to change your ...STI's dont have cat's on the uppipe..so its not retrictive....your better off with the ap.

i know i wrote that somewhere else on here. o wells....btw

im stage 1

just got my car flashed at a suby meet today. took 5 minutes, and i noticed a nice difference. nothing huge but it is defly there.

triniskill · #17 (**permalink**) September 15th, 2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ALtronX

i know i wrote that somewhere else on here. o wells....btw

im stage 1

just got my car flashed at a suby meet today. took 5 minutes, and i noticed a nice difference. nothing huge but it is defly there.

NICE...just change that stock uppipe and dp..and you'll feel a bigger difference..

Mustangeater · #18 (**permalink**) September 16th, 2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by triniskill

acutally you dont have to change your ...STI's dont have cat's on the uppipe..so its not retrictive....your better off with the ap.

Your rite i forgot they come catless.

Johnlude85 · #19 (**permalink**) September 16th, 2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustangeater

Your rite i forgot they come catless.

so would i bennefiet whatsoever from upgrading the up pipe?

njn63 · #20 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Disillusioned

the different "staged" upgrades differ from company to company. there really is no standard.

just quoted for truth.

I hate "staged" upgrades. Seems so.. ricerish to me when i hear it. Not talking crap on anyone, just saying that if someone came up to me and said they had a "Stage 4 turbo kit" on their car i'd not be able to take them seriously.