Protien and Creatine - Tuner-Junction

Juicy19 · #1 (**permalink**) August 8th, 2006, 03:02 PM

What is the best way to incorporate protien shakes and Creatine into a workout program? I mean, when do you consume each in relation to working out?

tofuspeedstar · #2 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 05:00 PM

I consume a protein shake 3x a day

x1-Morning
x2-Mid-day
x3-before bed

Creatine after workouts Cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and so on.. works for me best that way.

ATISTANG · #3 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 05:10 PM

so say you are going to work out when you get off work, you should drink one before work, one with your lunch, then one after you work out in the evening?

Tony_Bolony · #4 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ATISTANG

so say you are going to work out when you get off work, you should drink one before work, one with your lunch, then one after you work out in the evening?

you dont have to do it that way, thats just how it works for tofu. its always good to have one right after you workout to help your muscles grow, and maybe an hour or so before you workout to help give you energy for your workout.

ATISTANG · #5 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ALtronX

you dont have to do it that way, thats just how it works for tofu. its always good to have one right after you workout to help your muscles grow, and maybe an hour or so before you workout to help give you energy for your workout.

ok, thats what I thought, I've been doing it that way

tofuspeedstar · #6 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 06:54 PM

I've just been getting the best results that way.

Tony_Bolony · #7 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 07:25 PM

if you have muscle milk, take that before you go to sleep, and it helps you have a more anabolic sleep. it really helps a lot.

ATISTANG · #8 (**permalink**) August 31st, 2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ALtronX

if you have muscle milk, take that before you go to sleep, and it helps you have a more anabolic sleep. it really helps a lot.

I'm not to smart, what do you mean by anabolic sleep?

Tony_Bolony · #9 (**permalink**) September 2nd, 2006, 04:40 AM

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I'm not to smart, what do you mean by anabolic sleep?

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There are proteins in muscle milk that take longer to absorbed (namely, casein). These slow-digesting proteins mean that - several hours after you drink the shake - your body still has access to protein (as opposed to whey, which is used very rapidly).

These slow-digesting formulas are good b/c you're not eating a meal every 3 hours while you're asleep. Slow proteins allow your body to keep repairing muscle (this is what makes you bigger/stronger) for a longer period after you go to sleep. So it's not varying your metabolism or knocking you out: it's just helping your body grow.

It's not an effect that only MM has, though - you can get the same thing from eating cottage cheese before bed, as well. And yes, it probably is more a diet/nutrition thing, but it's good to know.

got it off extreme fitness.

ATISTANG · #10 (**permalink**) September 2nd, 2006, 08:38 AM

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got it off extreme fitness.

I wonder how much cottage cheese I would have to eat, I kinda like that shit so I think I will start tring that

Tony_Bolony · #11 (**permalink**) September 2nd, 2006, 09:43 PM

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I wonder how much cottage cheese I would have to eat, I kinda like that shit so I think I will start tring that

prolly a few spoonfulls would do the trick.

ATISTANG · #12 (**permalink**) September 2nd, 2006, 10:06 PM

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prolly a few spoonfulls would do the trick.

sweet

Striation · #13 (**permalink**) September 16th, 2006, 06:53 PM

just take your protein right after your workout and about 30 mins before bed (so you wont feel too bloated while you try to sleep)

it doesnt matter what protein source it is, but a protein shake (made with water) will be less filling and allow you to consume the other foods you may still need to consume that day for your diets.

its important not to consume too many protein shakes a day for certain people because doing so will make it more difficult to consume the other important components of a diet such as carbohydrates, fats and vegetable foods, which for certain people must come from natural sources, which may also mean taking in larger than normal amounts.

sticking to a post workout and pre bed-time routine should be most beneficial for most, especially those on a specific caloric/nutrient diet.

ATISTANG · #14 (**permalink**) September 16th, 2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Striation

just take your protein right after your workout and about 30 mins before bed (so you wont feel too bloated while you try to sleep)

so no protein before the work out?
I have been doing a protein drink at lunch then one more after dinner, then I work out about an hour later and after the work out I will take muscle milk

Striation · #15 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 01:13 AM

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so no protein before the work out?
I have been doing a protein drink at lunch then one more after dinner, then I work out about an hour later and after the work out I will take muscle milk

it depends on your goals, taking in that many protein shakes probably leaves you without an appetite for full/regular meals. for bulking up, i wouldnt recommend it. but to slim down, it should help you slim up.

winter is coming up and most people are bulking up, so for me im eating on a somewhat normal schedule and taking 0-2 shakes a day. (yeah, some days i dont even take a shake if i feel i've had enough protein from meats/bean/soy foods.

ATISTANG · #16 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Striation

it depends on your goals, taking in that many protein shakes probably leaves you without an appetite for full/regular meals. for bulking up, i wouldnt recommend it. but to slim down, it should help you slim up.

So I can substatute some eating with protein shakes?
I do want to trim down mainy in the gut regien but all around I would like to cut fat

Striation · #17 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ATISTANG

So I can substatute some eating with protein shakes?
I do want to trim down mainy in the gut regien but all around I would like to cut fat

you shouldnt dip your calorie intake too low, especially if you still want to gain muscle with your training. that is where cardio comes in.

ATISTANG · #18 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Striation

you shouldnt dip your calorie intake too low, especially if you still want to gain muscle with your training. that is where cardio comes in.

I'm just talking about substating dinner on my off nights with a protein shake, then maybe doing a very light work out, one set of each in between my work out days. Or would that be bad?
and cardio, I smoke and I'm lazy lol

Striation · #19 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 12:46 PM

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I'm just talking about substating dinner on my off nights with a protein shake, then maybe doing a very light work out, one set of each in between my work out days. Or would that be bad?
and cardio, I smoke and I'm lazy lol

replacing a evening meal is typically good since you will be cutting carbs. and dont expect to see gains any time soon without a good cardio regimine, especially if you're sitting around smoking and storing calories.

ATISTANG · #20 (**permalink**) September 17th, 2006, 12:52 PM

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replacing a evening meal is typically good since you will be cutting carbs. and dont expect to see gains any time soon without a good cardio regimine, especially if you're sitting around smoking and storing calories.

Accually
I only work out once a week and people I havn't seen for a month are like damn, have you been working out.
When I was in high school I worked out with the football team and I found out that I build muscle real quick for some reason, I wasn't even taking anything then. But I see what you are saying, I plan on shaping up some more this winter when there isn't so many parties