thoughts on a new build - Tuner-Junction

hcarcrx · #1 (**permalink**) March 26th, 2008, 11:50 PM

i have a b16a, with some bolt ons for now, been thinking about doing a new motor, either a d16 built and s/c, a b20vtec, or turboing my b16....i do more track days than anything, a few a/c's but drive very little on the street.....any thoughts or sugerstions

drummingpariah · #2 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 12:57 AM

What's wrong with the b16a? What do you want to gain?

hcarcrx · #3 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by drummingpariah

What's wrong with the b16a? What do you want to gain?

well im really looking to gain some power and tq, my car is fast on the road coarse but i need 25-30 more hp

drummingpariah · #4 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 11:09 AM

Personally, I'd build the b16. You have a near-perfect rod-stroke ratio in that block, all you need to do is let it breathe. Re-mapping that ecu will make a pretty huge difference too. Check out www.pgmfi.org for the experts on the hows and whys.

If you end up going turbo with it, I definitely want to see some pictures.

The b20vtec is a torquey choice, but you'll lose some control because of the (comparatively) peaky powerband. Also, longevity will suffer because it's very oversquare (1.54:1 rod-stroke ratio, compared to the b16's near-perfect 1.74:1 ratio).

If you're looking for more torque, you could always just sleeve the b16, as well. I don't recommend that, but it's always an option.

Either way, good luck, and take lots of pictures!

Calicab · #5 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 01:31 PM

find an LSD for you b 16...

that would help you tons in racing

hcarcrx · #6 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by drummingpariah

Personally, I'd build the b16. You have a near-perfect rod-stroke ratio in that block, all you need to do is let it breathe. Re-mapping that ecu will make a pretty huge difference too. Check out www.pgmfi.org for the experts on the hows and whys.

If you end up going turbo with it, I definitely want to see some pictures.

The b20vtec is a torquey choice, but you'll lose some control because of the (comparatively) peaky powerband. Also, longevity will suffer because it's very oversquare (1.54:1 rod-stroke ratio, compared to the b16's near-perfect 1.74:1 ratio).

If you're looking for more torque, you could always just sleeve the b16, as well. I don't recommend that, but it's always an option.

Either way, good luck, and take lots of pictures!

pictures are always taken, trust me, i have everything to convert it to a obd1 but a distributer, i have a endyne crank girdle and re-worked oil pump, SO i might be looking to do a turbo and run small boost

hcarcrx · #7 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Calicab

find an LSD for you b 16...

that would help you tons in racing

i have a phanton grip in there now, and it did make a big difference, at some point in time i want to go quaffe

drummingpariah · #8 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hcarcrx

pictures are always taken, trust me, i have everything to convert it to a obd1 but a distributer, i have a endyne crank girdle and re-worked oil pump, SO i might be looking to do a turbo and run small boost

I am, and probably always will be an obd0 tuner. obd0 is more straightforward and inexpensive than obd1 to tune, and the open-source community strongly supports it. Either way, damned cool project; I highly support it!

hcarcrx · #9 (**permalink**) March 27th, 2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by drummingpariah

I am, and probably always will be an obd0 tuner. obd0 is more straightforward and inexpensive than obd1 to tune, and the open-source community strongly supports it. Either way, damned cool project; I highly support it!

i might have to look more in to obo0 then, ill have to read up on it for a few more days