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March 5th, 2007, 02:58 PM
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camber/alignment kits?
ok so to go along with my never ending build (lol) i have decided i need a proper camber/alignment. i used to have that ghetto kit (from ebay) with the bolts and washers. thats unacceptable now cause i hate going cheap on things  and on top of that the front camber was still off because in inside of the tires wore wayy faster than the outside (so a bit negative). my rears are pefect though, didnt need any mods.
so, im not really too sure what is out there...i have some friends (not with CRXs ) that have camber plates...i thought those are pretty nice, def something i would like if possible. so whats good, im open to any recommendations here.... my current suspension setup is KYB AGX adjustable and eiback prokit springs. full-race traction bar also.
i really wasnt able to find much...modacar had nothing, and i found something from ingalls on summit i think. i guess my problem is i really dont know of any good sites to order stuff off of. main reason is my buddy used to work at a speed shop and hooked me up with everything on discount....
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March 5th, 2007, 03:42 PM
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Without going into a long drawn out speech on Suspension you need to remember one thing. Camber plates will change the camber only if you have McPherson strut suspension. Many people don't understand the difference, but that's another thread. CRXs don't use strut style suspension so to change the camber you have to change the mounting point of the upper control arm either at the knuckle or at the chassis. You have three options.....
- Ingalls upper control arm mounting pivots
- Adjustable upper ball joint
- New adjustable style upper control arm
The first one changes the pivoting point of the upper control arm. Closer to the inner fender to give more negative camber or further away to give you more positive camber. I have this style and during extreme racing conditions people have said they move. I once thought this to be true but now I don't think so.
The second style is really the same thing except the ball joint at the knuckle is adjustable. Good idea but these usually change the height of the ball joint and some people like me don't have the clearance. Also, I'm not fond of having something that takes so much stress being adjustable.
The third is the best bet but have not been made for the CRX (although I just found a company the other day). It's a brand new upper control arm that lets the ball joint slide around. This is the best of both worlds. The ball joint still maintains it's strength and the adjustability is at the knuckle side where it's easier to get at.
Kevlar is a great person to talk about this as well. Although you will need to order his "Learn to talk suspension jive in 5 days" book first.
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March 5th, 2007, 04:09 PM
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ah well that clears up the camber plate thing thanks!!
ill do the control arm if i can find a place that sells one for the CRX, what palce did you find that has them? otherwise ill go the ingalls route like you.
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March 5th, 2007, 06:02 PM
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Revo Technica - Camber Kits Control Arms Honda Civic Acura Integra
Also, keep in mind whenever ANYONE on any forum gives you advice you need to do research. Just because we mention doesn't mean it will be good for your application. Example, these arms probably won't do it for me. The reason is I want a lot of negative camber for road racing (I don't really drag). Judging by the specs I just read this will not work for me.
Google is your friend 
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March 5th, 2007, 09:27 PM
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yeah john's pretty much on the money with that advice. remember with production cars. DONT THINK TOO HARD.
keep things simple, cos the more u think and the more complex u start thinking it can get messy with big consequences.
adjustable heim/rose jointed arms are great. as long as u get GOOD QUALITY ones. largely determined by the weld quality and the quality of the steel used. it also eliminates play in the bushes that it replaces. very solid and very tight.
remember everytime u change camber, toe changes as well. suspension moves as one and is adjusted as one. its like a living organism in a way. u cant affect one without affecting the other
so something with toe control is good. or toe control arms.
consider ur application. think simple. and always consider the cost-benefit ratio of it all.
frankly a good suspension setup kills power delivery for me, it makes power look like a 9 year old boy's asshole, suspension would be the big gay paedophilic cock. yes its disgusting and totally out of line. but good suspension is rock star like that.
john i wouldnt be too worried about the heim joints moving. u'll start hearing them when they get a lil bit of play in them. certain areas such as tension rods etc arent too bad in terms of real life application and consequences. but for setting-arms, i'd replace them if they were worn.
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March 8th, 2007, 11:58 AM
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sweet stuff, thanks for the info
i plan to do mostly road racing also, but being able to have the camber even for a lil drag and just day to day cruising is somethin ill need too
what kinda camber you run for racing jadkar?
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'89 Blade Silver Metallic CRX VTEC
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