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Old February 22nd, 2007, 01:11 PM
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Question how wide [wheels/tires] can i go?

so spring is coming, and i need to hurry up and get my CRX ready for racing season....i need rims/tires cause what i have isnt enough.

so, I was wondering...what is the widest posible rim size that can be put on our cars without rubbage and junk during hard cornering n such?? as for rim size it doesnt matter to me cause its for racing not bling...ill get 14"s if i can run em a lil wider than a 15 or 16.
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I have done a lot of research on this because on a road course I want to put as much rubber to the ground as possible, but it's imperative I don't rub. What I came up with is......

15 x 7 with a 40 offset running 205/50/r15

The back is absolutely perfect, it doesn't get much better. The front does rub ever so slightly. I had to roll the fenders and on larger bounces the tires do contact the inside upper fender well slightly. Not enough to cause a concern and defintiely not enough to throw the handling out while on the track, but it does contact.

I have heard of people running larger tires but if I rub then they have to, I don't care what anyone says!!
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why not take the liner out of the fender well for track use?? shouldnt that give you an extra couple of cm's of space for your tires??
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why not take the liner out of the fender well for track use?? shouldnt that give you an extra couple of cm's of space for your tires??
It's not hitting the liner, it's rubbing on the steel portion of the inner fender well.
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I have done a lot of research on this because on a road course I want to put as much rubber to the ground as possible, but it's imperative I don't rub. What I came up with is......

15 x 7 with a 40 offset running 205/50/r15

The back is absolutely perfect, it doesn't get much better. The front does rub ever so slightly. I had to roll the fenders and on larger bounces the tires do contact the inside upper fender well slightly. Not enough to cause a concern and defintiely not enough to throw the handling out while on the track, but it does contact.

I have heard of people running larger tires but if I rub then they have to, I don't care what anyone says!!
awesome thank you!!

how much is yours lowered? im only like 1.5" to 2" in the front
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It's not hitting the liner, it's rubbing on the steel portion of the inner fender well.
oops sry. if thats the case i got nothing.
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Couldn't you drop down a size in sidewall height if you have problems with rubbing?
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hmmm...now i have to decide on what rims lol...any reccomendations on some 15x7 with the 40 offset??

oh yeah, i want em to be as LIGHT as possible....cost isnt going to be a huge issue either. so far i see gram lights, rotas, and advan all in the right sizes....but im having trouble fiding weights
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Couldn't you drop down a size in sidewall height if you have problems with rubbing?
Yes, you could but I wanted to keep at least a 50 series tire for ride and handling advantages plus I wanted to keep the tire height as close as possible to what came with the transmission. In other words my ITR trans was geared to work with a tire height very close to mine.

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hmmm...now i have to decide on what rims lol...any reccomendations on some 15x7 with the 40 offset??

oh yeah, i want em to be as LIGHT as possible....cost isnt going to be a huge issue either. so far i see gram lights, rotas, and advan all in the right sizes....but im having trouble fiding weights
Finding a good lightweight wheel with the correct offset and width is tough. There aren't that many and most are 6.5" wide. I'm not the biggest fan of the GT3s that I'm running and many people complain that they are common. However they are the correct size, pretty light and come in many different finishes.
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Also, if I recall in a PM from CivicSiRacer, he found the ideal offset to be 42-43+. I believe he was using Enkei RPF1's (very very light) with an offset of 45+ but he had a 2-3 mm spacer. If those wheels actually fit over the larger brakes from fastbrakes I would consider them. Unfortunately, they have clearance similar to a 14 in wheel.

Enkei RPF1 15x7 45+ offset with spacer FTW!!!!
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It's not hitting the liner, it's rubbing on the steel portion of the inner fender well.
is it just the pinch weld on the chassis rails?
in the nissan world we got alot of experience with 'finding clearance'
heat up the pinch welds and hammer them in or up. go underneath ur car on jacks and test from there. check ur locks, and check what ur hammering but u should be fine.

most ppl back in the day thought anything larger than 8 was 'huge'. nowadays its so tried and true, that we run 9/9.5 front and 10/ +++ rear. its all about 'finding that clearance'. its what alot of knowledgeable ae-86 owners also.

its not like ur bending chassis rails.
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Enkei RPF1 15x7 45+ offset with spacer FTW!!!!
would you know how big of a spacer he ran? im planning on going larger brakes in the nearish future so I may have to do that


thanks alot for all the input guys!!!
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would you know how big of a spacer he ran? im planning on going larger brakes in the nearish future so I may have to do that


thanks alot for all the input guys!!!
I don't believe the RPF1's will fit over the big brake set-up without some insane spacer. He had stock brakes since it was an STS car.

Big Brakes and RPF1's = fitment issues
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is it just the pinch weld on the chassis rails?
in the nissan world we got alot of experience with 'finding clearance'
heat up the pinch welds and hammer them in or up. go underneath ur car on jacks and test from there. check ur locks, and check what ur hammering but u should be fine.

most ppl back in the day thought anything larger than 8 was 'huge'. nowadays its so tried and true, that we run 9/9.5 front and 10/ +++ rear. its all about 'finding that clearance'. its what alot of knowledgeable ae-86 owners also.

its not like ur bending chassis rails.
I'm not rubbing on any pinch welds. I'm actually rubbing on the round flat part of the inner fender. My car is also dropped low enough that my crank pulley is grinding against my Full Race radius rod which is not fun at all.
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then front fender pull, spacers to lower the offset and u should be cake may have to camber in a little more but thats not exactly gunna harm ur performance at the front
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then front fender pull, spacers to lower the offset and u should be cake may have to camber in a little more but thats not exactly gunna harm ur performance at the front
Please speak English and also whilst explaining remember that I have zero room to pull anything. Tomorrow, I'll take photos of the rubbed away undercoating on my fender well so you can see where it contacts.
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yeah do that. i should be able to help out.
i think out of all the worlds...the ae86 owners with knowledge do it the best

14/15x9 -23 offsets and shit. no rub. but they'll do anything to make it fit. i wouldnt be afraid of aggressive camber at the front, at least until i get beyond 5 degrees for a set up like mine......and there's alot of competitive cars runnin huge camber.
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then front fender pull, spacers to lower the offset and u should be cake may have to camber in a little more but thats not exactly gunna harm ur performance at the front

I think you're a little confused. Putting in spacers will only push the wheels out further. But you aer right about the camber, although I wonder if it would help to raise the car .25-.5" in the front.



And it is possible to run 13/14/15 x 8/9 on a CRX. You have to a) run INSANELY stiff springs and/or b) trim the fender.

I think John's problem is minimal, although I'm sure he's thinking of a way to correct to the issue. No body really likes rubbing issues.
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he's hitting the inner wheel fender, going a more neg offset will help

"putting in spacers will only push the wheels out further"......omg........88rex. please teach me the ways of wheel fitment.

john, get me that photo.
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