Since I can never get a fully definite, or conclusive, answer on SHO...I'm coming here.

Now, just to give the frontal info, my CRX is completely stock now and I would like to soon swap to a B18, not really for track purposes...but more to have a better engine in my car and have some nice power. Budget isn't really an issue with me, it would be more of a daily driver car for me, but I would like to track it and have some fun with it here and there. As for any HP goals, for now I don't have any, I love my CRX and would love to have a better engine in it that is a bit more reliable then my stock one with a good ammount of power.

Now I will probably be ordering a complete changeover from Hmotorsonline.com, a USDM B18C1 obd1 engine, I know I will need the hydro-cable tranny conversion, as well as the obd conversion kit and the mounts and linkage.

Now since I've never done a swap and would like to make sure everything is done professionally and correctly I will be having a shop put my engine in and everything for me, but the only thing I haven't got any information on is the obd conversion kit.

Where is the best place to get one as well would I need anything additionally other then the things I already mentioned.

Heres the link to the engine I was looking into getting: http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30009

And last, since I live in California where smog and engine swaps are a serious thing I will be getting my car BARed which is why I'm doing a USDM swap and trying to do everything professionally and just making sure I get all the information I need before I start to get everything set up and ordered, because I'd hate to get halfway and then be stuck because I didn't do my homework.

Also, to give you an idea on what I plan to spend, I've done some calculating already:

Complete swap with LSD tranny and hyrdo-cable tranny conversion : $3999 (includes shipping)
Hasport Mounts and Shift Linkage: $650 (unsure of shipping costs)
OBD conversion kit: Going out on a limb here but I've seen them range from like $100-$200, so lets go with $150.

Then the costs to have it installed, which I'm not sure of yet, but I have a few friends who can provide me some good deals at a shop.

Again, I'm just trying to give my car a way better engine so I don't really have to worry about it blowing and replacing it..etc, and that way I also have some more power as well so I can have some fun with my car as well.

Thanks, Matt.

There's a few different places that can help you out with the wiring conversion. I used HASPORT and had some issues, although everything worked out. There's another member on this board who used Rywire and had zero issues.

I would say check them both out.

As far as what you are going to spend this is really a gray area. There's a lot of other stuff that's just gonna pop up that you probably didn't expect. In short.....

shift linkage
axles
radiator hoses
air intake

It is all gonna depend on what you can get cheap and what you want to buy brand new. As an example, a B18c-r swap can run 7K to 17K depending on a whole bunch of stuff in between.

In your case I think if you budget 5K you should be OK, although I would like to hear what others say.

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i'd say a budget of 5k-6k for parts and probably about 1k to get it installed is going to be a good estimate. Probably should just figure a little higher because nothing ever goes as planned.

I have a rywire obd1 conversion harness in my car and it has been flawless. Depending on how much you want to spend, he can do anything for you. Mine was $114 shipped but i had to run wires and repin my distributor because i didn't feel like paying the extra $30 for the adaptors.

Also, while the motor is out i always say to do some general maintence. Timing belt, water pump, just a general tune-up. It's so much easier to do it with the motor out of the car and then you know it's been done.

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Thats pretty much was I was estimating and I was definately going to do the spark plugs, spark plug wires, timing belt, water pump, tension pulley and the rotor, since Hmotors will only guarantee a 100% start up on the engine when you replace them, plus overall its just general maintanence to do anyways since you really have no background history on the engine.

I'll definately look into the rywire engine harness, generally seems to be the lowest I've seen (compared to hasport at least which you need to send the items in and cost like $275 or something like that).

I'll definately look into this some more and hopefully have my swap fully ready and done in the next upcoming months...which reminds me I really need to go out and get some pictures of my car...pretty clean stockwise especially for what I paid.

Thanks again.

well, rywire will do the same thing hasport will do too where they completely redo your harness and it's plug and play and i think the price is similar. The jumper harness route is a lot cheaper though if you don't mind running a few wires. I did my obd1 conversion in a night and it started up first time i cranked it over. If you don't mind running the wires, i'd deffinatly just go the jumper harness route.

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I probably will, wiring isn't my favorite thing, but its not necessarily hard...sometimes a little tedious though, I've looked over some online structions from another OBD conversion provider and it doesn't sound to hard.

Plus, since I'm having a shop do it, I can probably have them add it in for free, if not I'll do it myself.

Easy on that....... wiring can bite ya. I paid the big bucks for HASPORT to modifiy my harness. You know, to make it "plug and play". Sure, well after 1 month of trying to get the car started I found out it was the distributor wiring that was screwed up. HASPORT swapped 2 wires around on my dizzy plug and the car wouldn't run. It wasn't even throwing codes. I ended up having to trace every wire back to the ECU before I found out what it was.

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I did a similar swap, just in my CX hatch. I bought my 98 USDM GSR motor from HMotorsOnline. Call Steve at HMO to see if he'll do USDM. When I got mine from him he said he was done dealing those things because he doesn't make any money, he has to charge more and they make less power.
Also if you were to go with a JDM GSR motor that would be OBD-I already and you wouldn't need the conversion. If however you do use an OBD-II USDM motor then you can smog it as an OBD-II if you're getting it badged. My car is badged by the smog ref - the motor just has to be same OBD or better than what was originally in the car, with all OEM emissions control equipment on it and operational, and as for the motor it must be of the same duty as what was intended for the chassis (no B20 for example) and same year as the chassis or newer. None of that is a problem for you with a CRX (1990?)
Soup to nuts my swap was $5,000. That includes a CAI, a high flow cat, custom exhaust, GSR throttle cable and del sol AC bracket. HMotorsOnline includes the axles and shift linkage. The labor for the swap was $600 for me. And I was able to sell my old motor, tranny and exhaust for $300.
All that brought the total to $5k but that was 4 years ago so I would imagine it SHOULD be cheaper now...but who knows. You're doing a smart thing going with an LSD...I wish I got that now that I'm autocrossing.

Good luck dude

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My GSR Hybrid - a Swap in Review

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Yeh I recently spoke to Steve at hmotors, he said that for now (at least) they only have the JDM engines, but to check back soon and he should have some USDM ones coming in soon. I'll definately be doing some more research on this as time comes.

I really appreciate all the info guys, any more is much appreciated, the more info I have, the better I will be able to get this swap done with as little issues necessary.

Whatever you think it will cost, add at least an additional $1000. I ended up spending more than I wanted, but I got more parts than I had wanted too. Once you start spending the extra "$400 for a crossmember" becomes nothing.

I used rywire and had no issues at all. They harness came back looking brand new and all the plugs were labeled for me. Pretty straight forward, and they are easy to talk to. He also knows a good deal about BARing a car in cali.

FWIW, I paid $500 for my mounts and shift linkage from NoLimit Motorsports. I don't know if that deal is still available, BUT they were the cheapest I could find at the time.

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88 CRX DX + 97 Spec JDM B18c(R) + some suspension goodies = Lots of fun!

JDM 4.785 final drive, ACT HDSS and Prolite 8lb flywheel, K&N, Kteller 2.5 w/magnaflow, NGK, Distributor King, Fiberimages, Koni, Neuspeed, ST rear 22mm sway bar with ITR LCA's, Konig Heliums, Russel's Brake Lines, Rywire Harness w/JKOBD, Hasport Hydro EFB2 Mounts and Linkage, Phearable.net P28, Full-Race

Sounds good, also...one question...now on hasport's site (for the mounts) they charge $400 for the b series mounts for a cable tranny and $500 for b series mounts with a hydraulic tranny. I should just pick u pthe 500 ones right?

Thanks, Matt

Yeah, you're gonna want the ones with the hydro conversion (500-).

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You also said radiator hoses and the intake, I could just get both from any 94-97 gsr and it should swap in perfectly correct?

Well, I forget which year teg hoses I got, but they needed to be trimmed to fit appropriately.

Jadkar has Samco hoses, so maybe he was able to get a nice direct fit with no cutting. John, do they make hoses specifically for our set-up?

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~Will

88 CRX DX + 97 Spec JDM B18c(R) + some suspension goodies = Lots of fun!

JDM 4.785 final drive, ACT HDSS and Prolite 8lb flywheel, K&N, Kteller 2.5 w/magnaflow, NGK, Distributor King, Fiberimages, Koni, Neuspeed, ST rear 22mm sway bar with ITR LCA's, Konig Heliums, Russel's Brake Lines, Rywire Harness w/JKOBD, Hasport Hydro EFB2 Mounts and Linkage, Phearable.net P28, Full-Race

My Samco hoses needed to be trimmed but very slightly. The ones I used were in fact made specifically for a B18 swap into a EF. Ad far as my intake, I bought a AEM hybrid intake which was also specifically made for a B18c swap into an EF. It fit like a charm until I went SC, then I had to cut it up slightly.

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Planning and researching is the most important part of the swap. I love watching this unfold, brings back good memories!

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Ok so heres what I was thinking, get the engine shipped to my house and do all the normal maintainence while the engine is out (timing belt, spark plugs, spark plug wires...etc) then when I'm done with all that possibly remove my d16a6 and get my engine harness and the one for tbe B18 and send it in to rywire. Once that is done take everything in.

Unless I can get the shop to do the harness for cheap then I might just do that instead because I'd hate to have to try and get my engine out and be out a car for who knows how long.

I'll probably have all this done by early spring or so, once I get started I will definately post pictures as well as results.

Also, does anyone on this forum know a lot about passing a car by BAR in CA. If so let me know, I have a few questions.