I enjoyed the drive, but it did not impress me power wise over a DOHC ZC for the money.

I'm not convinced that the ZC is the best bang for the buck swap one could do... somewhat.

The b16 is an awsome engine, and potential wise it outdoes the DOCH ZC by leaps and bounds. But at $2000 complete swap cost vs the DOHC <= $1000 total swap cost, it just didn't feel like $1000 more.

Now I can answer confidently when somebody ask me whether a DOCH ZC is for them vs a b16a:

If all your going to do is swap the engine for a power gain, mabey some exhaust work as far as power, then the ZC is a better platform if you want to save a little money. Though, if you plan on expanding the cars power engine wise then a b16 has way better potential, and more aftermarket support.

I also drove a b18c EF Hatch months back (like around January/December)... to that I do this...

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This is good news.

There are very few import people around here, so I won't have an opertunity to drive different cars to see what they're like.

I'm in the market for a motor swap, and I've been leaning toward the ZC, but I was afraid I would regret it.

I don't need huge power.. just a fresh motor, and while I'm at it a little more oomph. It appears that the ZC will fit the bill after all.

-Des!

with the money you save over a B16, you could turbo the ZC

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yea, im the nervous twitchy one

turbo zc>stock b16 poo crap

however if the engines were the same price b16>zc for da sweet valve cover

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Ehhh.....

Supercharged a6 > NA/boosted ZC

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88 CRX DX + 97 Spec JDM B18c(R) + some suspension goodies = Lots of fun!

JDM 4.785 final drive, ACT HDSS and Prolite 8lb flywheel, K&N, Kteller 2.5 w/magnaflow, NGK, Distributor King, Fiberimages, Koni, Neuspeed, ST rear 22mm sway bar with ITR LCA's, Konig Heliums, Russel's Brake Lines, Rywire Harness w/JKOBD, Hasport Hydro EFB2 Mounts and Linkage, Phearable.net P28, Full-Race

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yea, im the nervous twitchy one

Back in the day (1991ish) I read an article translated from Japanese comparing the new VTEC 1.6 (new at the time) to the DOHC non-VTEC. The report basically said it's hard to tell the difference until you really rev it up. Even then the difference isn't huge. At moderate throttle angles and through hilly country you almost can't tell the difference.

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The a6 is a GREAT motor.

Mini-me a6 with JRSC > any ZC evaR

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~Will

88 CRX DX + 97 Spec JDM B18c(R) + some suspension goodies = Lots of fun!

JDM 4.785 final drive, ACT HDSS and Prolite 8lb flywheel, K&N, Kteller 2.5 w/magnaflow, NGK, Distributor King, Fiberimages, Koni, Neuspeed, ST rear 22mm sway bar with ITR LCA's, Konig Heliums, Russel's Brake Lines, Rywire Harness w/JKOBD, Hasport Hydro EFB2 Mounts and Linkage, Phearable.net P28, Full-Race

I have a b16 in my crx...have noproblem with it...I never drove another crx to see what the difference is between the non-vtec n vtec...but for what I have done to my crx..I'm liking it and cant wait to mess around with it more..

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B16's are overrated.

I love my D series. They have lots of aftermarket, they're strong as hell, and cheap too. So if you blow one up, who cares? Buy another one! All the cool kids want B16's so they're ditching the D series anyways. Beat them with their own junk!

My mini me setup is going to be able to stomp those B16 suckers. Then just wait and see if I go turbo...

If I ever go B series, it will be a B18. No replacement for displacement. If you want 1.6l, stay with the D.

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prove it hippie!

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soo if there overrated..that doesnt mean there pieces of shit..yes the d series will be cheaper and easier to replace..but you can get a lot more out of a b16 then a d series...plus the only reason I have a b16 is that i got it form my bro for 700 whole swap..and I dont want the clearance problems that you get with the b18 that some people have...In NJ you dont want to have that oil pan to close to the ground..roads are fucked up here..

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89 crx HF..SOLD!!!

i cant wait to start a d-series build
im with you xlr8

Oh I will I just went camping so I'm a broke ass nigga right now. The plan is to get a small loan to finish the project before it gets any later in the year, and use part of it for books and shit for school. My motor will be faster than a stock B16 CR-X, but not a lot. I was with a friend who has a B16 in his Rex, and he doesn't beat me by much, about a car length. I know I'll beat my friend's Prelude (I/H/E, susp.+tires) until he finally catches me with his top end.

Nah I never said they're shitty, but everyone always says go B. They're over priced and it's because of how many Honda people do swaps now. Hell if I really wanted to I would go with an H22A. Better value compared to a B18C, but the B18C is easier to swap, and more common.

PS: Roads suck ass here too. You gotta have some skills if you wanna ride dumped around here.

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h22 rex would be badass

i have one on my forza game

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Hasport mounts were made for the B16 and are used for the B18's. The ground clearance is the same, but the B18c's sit up about 7mm higher (or is it 11?).

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~Will

88 CRX DX + 97 Spec JDM B18c(R) + some suspension goodies = Lots of fun!

JDM 4.785 final drive, ACT HDSS and Prolite 8lb flywheel, K&N, Kteller 2.5 w/magnaflow, NGK, Distributor King, Fiberimages, Koni, Neuspeed, ST rear 22mm sway bar with ITR LCA's, Konig Heliums, Russel's Brake Lines, Rywire Harness w/JKOBD, Hasport Hydro EFB2 Mounts and Linkage, Phearable.net P28, Full-Race

i drove a b16a crx today too! haha

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This is why someone came up with ls/vtec. I agree that a b18 is a better starting platform, I originally had a b16 in my rex with i/h, and my friend had a b18, bone stock. When we raced it was dead even, no one pulled on each other, it wasnt until I got the intake manifold and throttle body that i would beat him top end. Im really happy with my ls/vtec its still in the break in period so i havnt been above 5000rpms and its now low compression (9:1) but its great, much better off the line, but id swap a b18 before a b16 IMO. Although I still really want to do a d series build, I know people are pulling off great numbers with them, maybe for my next project.

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B16 for me. I have no argument. To each his own..

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91' CRX HF (stock motor): AEM Short Ram Intake, Buddy Club Spec II Exhaust, Neuspeed Short Shifter, Tokico Lowering Kit, NGK Wires, Wings West RS Body Kit, GS-R Rims, Toyo Proxe T1R's, Pioneer Head Unit, 2 Alpine 12" Type-E Subs, 4 Alpine Type-S 5 3/4" Door Speakers, Custom Enclosure.

You better start savin bia or ill run next door and slap you till you do

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