NSX brakes on crx - Tuner-Junction

ozrednsx · #1 (**permalink**) May 18th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Hey guys well im a newbie to this forum and this is my first post

Jadkar recommended me to this forum on nsxprime. Well i need some help i recently bought some nsx calipers front and rear which i heard is basically the same brakes as the ITR just lighter and they say nsx on them. Well i wanted to do a brake swap for my crx hf and i need some help from you guys. I think im going to need to change my knuckles to EX ones and i heard they are pretty hard to find. Any one selling these? also other than that im going to need to get some rotors so do you think i should go to a junkyard and get some of prelude/intergra/etc or just get some from fastbrakes. now about the rear i am told i need the T/A off an intergra, some si brake lines, an ebrake cable (i dont know what car to get this out of). Also the 4040 prop valve and a new mc and brake booster. The calipers are coming with the bracket and other forums its either i grind this bracket or get a wheel spacer correct me if im wrong. What are some problems i will come across? Am i just thinking out of this world and wasting my time and im not that experienced with DIY's so you guys think id be able to do this?

thanks a lot guys

mad-ass · #2 (**permalink**) May 18th, 2006, 08:23 PM

welcome to TJ.

I believe I saw couple of 93 below integra's with NSX brake upgrades.
So I assume you'll need integra's assembly. hit the fastbrakes and see how much it'll be for them, and go to junkyard to get different pricing

Good luck~

jadkar · #3 (**permalink**) May 18th, 2006, 08:37 PM

ozrednsx - Welcome!! I'm glad to see a fellow NSXPRIME member here

As far as your NSX brake conversion, I'm gonna do some research and see what I can come up with on my own. Also, you may hear back on this forum from other CRXers, Njn63 & 88 Rex come to mind. Both of these guys are super knowledgeable, I know this swap has been done. Also I would definitely call Fast-Brakes, I bought my entire brake setup from them and he's very friendly and knowledgeable (If I remember his name is Brian).

hcarcrx · #4 (**permalink**) May 18th, 2006, 08:47 PM

there was a guy that lived south of dszyton that had it done. he had itr front hubs and spindles and had the mounting point on the spindle machined down for the calipers, i dont know how much he had them shaved, but if you search for the swap you will probally find his car somewhere.

oh yea welcome to tj

UMREX · #5 (**permalink**) May 18th, 2006, 11:11 PM

i've seen this swap before. i think it just looks cool. if your car is just for the streets id recommend the 90-93 integra swap or get the fastbrakes bracket.
then go with 11' brembo blanks, hawks hps pads, and some ss lines. this is plenty. also you could upgrade your master cylinder.

njn63 · #6 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 12:08 AM

Which generation nsx calipers did you get? I assume the earlier ones?

The integra knuckles are a little bigger (i want to say 3/4") than the Civic EX ones and will effect geometry. The Civic ones are the ones you want.

Integra rotors are 10.2" i believe. I'm almost 100% sure there is no 4x100 rotor in 11" besides the G60 Corrodo rotor which has the wrong offset (fastbrakes uses this one i think but they use brackets). Redrilled Prelude rotors are probably the best bet for that.

I havn't looked up the info on brake swaps in a while and kinda forgot it. One thing to deffinatly think about is what wheels you're going to need. Some 15" wheels will fit.

jadkar · #7 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 12:46 AM

^^^

Nick, all NSX calipers are the same. 1997+ had better brakes but it wasn't because of the calipers, the rotors were larger. So it doesn't matter what year NSX binders you get

and yes.... I have VW G60s (11.0") on my car but I'm using the fastbrake brackets with teggy calipers. WinFreak & AppexingHonda may also bea ble to speak on this.

Skunk91 · #8 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 01:05 AM

Guys I gotta do this swap Please Give me more info im gona search now
lol i wanna Nsx cluster but i think s2000 one is SICK

XLR8 · #9 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunk91

Guys I gotta do this swap Please Give me more info im gona search now
lol i wanna Nsx cluster but i think s2000 one is SICK

Just so you know, the S2K cluster is very difficult to swap, and still can not function 100%. Please try and stay on topic.

Welcome to Tuner Junction ozrednsx!!!!!

88 rex · #10 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 04:30 PM

I have seen it online before. I'll have to track down where I saw it.

Welcome to the board.

Also, they are different then Type R calipes and they have much more in common with the old TL/Vigor (forget off the top of my head) calipers. Type R are single piston, NSX is dual piston, and the Vigor/TL is dual piston but with bigger pistons.

EDIT: I meant to say Legend calipers not Vigor

88 rex · #11 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 04:39 PM

In a nutshell:

civic ex/da integra knuckle
nsx caliper/brackets
prelude vtec rotors redrilled
shave off some of the caliper bracket...

ozrednsx · #12 (**permalink**) May 19th, 2006, 05:34 PM

Hmmm seems harder than i thought. Well im going to call fast brakes and see what they have to say. Also im picking up the calipers this weekend and hopefully hit up the junkyard for some parts. I called up a junkyard and located some civic ex knuckles for 150 which almost as much as the calipers im getting...hopefully i dont break $600 on this swap

Skunk91 · #13 (**permalink**) May 20th, 2006, 03:18 AM

So what Year Civic Ex Knuckles and Da integra is 93 & Before right ?

So when i get calipers if i tell them i need bracket too they should know what im talking about right ?

And on prelude vtec rotors what do u mean redrilled ? (dif lug pattern)?

im really interested in doin this swap

88 rex · #14 (**permalink**) May 20th, 2006, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunk91

So what Year Civic Ex Knuckles and Da integra is 93 & Before right ?

So when i get calipers if i tell them i need bracket too they should know what im talking about right ?

And on prelude vtec rotors what do u mean redrilled ? (dif lug pattern)?

im really interested in doin this swap

1) Yes

2) I'm not sure if they will know what you are talking about. Depends where you get them

3) Yes, different lug pattern.

WinFreak · #15 (**permalink**) May 20th, 2006, 07:52 AM

have a look at my DIY for my brake setup, i did exactly the same, accept with the ITR calipers... but the basics stay the same as you can read above...

DIY: Cheap big brake conversion with oem honda parts

Skunk91 · #16 (**permalink**) May 21st, 2006, 02:23 AM

So is there another name for the knuckle i mean what knuckle is it ?

And are the stock prelude vtec rotors Drilled ? i can buy slotted and drilled ones right ?

ozrednsx · #17 (**permalink**) May 21st, 2006, 05:21 AM

Alright i got my nsx calipers today and i checked the bracket and it says 28T for the front pair.

So from winfreaks write up if i get the ef8 hubs my nsx calipers should be able to bolt up in the front?

whats the difference from doing ef8 hubs and civic ex knuckles?

Arent ITR calipers different from nsx/legend brakes? 1 piston vs 2 piston

So there is no requirement of shaving off part of the caliper bracket if i do the ef8 or ex knuckle swap?

would i be able to get nsx rotors and just redrill those instead of getting prelude ones?

as of now since i can get some ex knuckles im going to do the front for now. Ill take some pictures of the nsx calipers for you guys

mad-ass · #18 (**permalink**) May 21st, 2006, 08:54 AM

going OT for a sec.

on JTuned.com, they have a CRX with K serise motor + S2000 gauge cluster.
http://www.jtuned.com/content/templa...id=81&zoneid=1

ok..go on with this topic

good DIY winfreak!

Skunk91 · #19 (**permalink**) May 21st, 2006, 01:57 PM

Yea thats one of my favorite crx's ever lol now ur getting off subject haha

Still interested i think i might just do front in NSX i dunno

But So do u have to changeur mastercylinder or anything under the hood ?

88 rex · #20 (**permalink**) May 21st, 2006, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozrednsx

Alright i got my nsx calipers today and i checked the bracket and it says 28T for the front pair.

So from winfreaks write up if i get the ef8 hubs my nsx calipers should be able to bolt up in the front?

whats the difference from doing ef8 hubs and civic ex knuckles?

Arent ITR calipers different from nsx/legend brakes? 1 piston vs 2 piston

So there is no requirement of shaving off part of the caliper bracket if i do the ef8 or ex knuckle swap?

would i be able to get nsx rotors and just redrill those instead of getting prelude ones?

as of now since i can get some ex knuckles im going to do the front for now. Ill take some pictures of the nsx calipers for you guys

I don't what is different about the EE8/EF8 knuckles. Did he use any washers, or grind down bracket at all? Seems pretty straight forward from his pictures. I know some people have to either grind off 2mm or add a washer or two, but that might be dependent on which rotors you use. I guess with prelude rotors you don't need the spacers.

Yes, the calipers are different. BUT I believe that they have identical bolt patterns so there is no issues there.

Also, I don't know about NSX rotors. I know someone has used them before, but I forget what he had to change to use them. Maybe a spacer. Why not just use prelude rotors? Autozone blanks don't cost too much.