Well, I guess this isn't the biggest problem, but it's getting stupid. Today I took the REX to work again. On the way home I whipped out my trusty stop watch. I pulled over on the side of a straight stretch of road and did a "highly un-scientific" 0-60 run starting from 2nd gear. I did this twice and then twice from 1st. This is my findings

1) 4.2
2) 3.9
3) 5.2
4) 5.1

This is not very accurate but......... I NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS DAMN ITR TRANS Starting from 2nd, not revving the engine the car drops from idle to about 400-500rpm then once it hits 1200rpm it breaks the tires loose and hops and skips desperately trying to get traction all the way to red line which is about 59-61mph (can't friggin' tell, too much going on). So basically I can do a 0-60 run in one gear without shifting. Now if I trusted my clutch more and I revved this car to 3K or 4k and dropped the clutch in second the car would be a ROCKET!!

I loose time when I start in first because I have to baby the crap out of the car, then loose MORE time on a worthless shift into second.

So I already posted something in the classified section on a trade for a GSR trans but I don't think that's good enough. I think the GSR trans will still be too tall!! What I need is somehow to re-gear this thing so the my final drive stays the same but, all the gears move down. Meaning 2nd becomes my 1st, 3rd becomes my 2nd, etc. and then add a whole new 5th gear. Is this possible???

I have to figure out something because right now I'm not using 1st gear at all.

Suggestions please.

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wait wouldn't you WANT taller gears if that was your problem

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from what it looks like, the first gear in a GS-R is going to be exactly the same: http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm So it doesn't look like a GSR trans will help the situation.

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aahhhh.... what ever You know what I mean. I hate trying to figure out taller / shorter when it comes to gears.

I think I need a shorter(lower) final drive OR taller(higher) primary gears. For god sakes though....... you know what I'm talking about, longer legs

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Damn!!! It's almost as if I need custom ratios. I'm telling you you have to experience this first hand. With the SC, and the car's super low weight 2nd gear is totally acceptable for any type of driving, whether it's cruising or launching hard. It just goes, and goes real fast.

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Yes, GSR tranny is the same. If you want to make them taller you will have to finder a longer fd. That would be more ideal in my opinion than an LS tranny. Also, I don't believe the LS final drive will fit in the ITR trans. You can get custom gears but it will be $$$.

An alternative would be some bigger wheels/tires for the street if its giving you that much trouble. then you could switch to whatever wheel/tire combo for the road course b/c I doubt you'll see first gear. For the drag strip I would recommend some 24.5 mickey's.

Base transmission selected: 94-01 US LS
1st gear 3.23
2nd gear 1.900
3rd gear 1.269
4th gear 0.966
5th gear 0.714
6th gear -
Final drive 4.266
Tire diameter in inches 23.1
Maximum engine speed (RPM) 8000
Cruise speed (MPH) 70


Gear ShiftRPM Speed @ 8000 RPM
1st N/A 39.9
2nd 4706 67.8
3rd 5343 101.6
4th 6090 133.4
5th 5913 180.5
RPM in top gear at 70 mph: 3103

That's your car with an LS tranny with your tires (which are a little hard too with a rating of 300, softer ones might help)

Argh!! I may just have to deal with it. As far as the strip, I can't go any taller because I'll rub for sure. I could go with the 13 inch drag slicks and just use 2nd gear. Or I could just suck it up and forget the whole issue. I called that dude you recommended to Todd. They told me the GSR trans will be the same except for my higher gears (4th, 5th). But for my problem the LS trans was the way to go. However, they mentioned the final drive units don't bolt up. Meaning my LSD won't fit and I think the splines on my axles may be wrong. This really sucks. The other thing is he said he can get me a 4.04 final drive for my ITR gearbox but it's pricey...around $1200.00 On a side note, I guess if I get the 4.04 final drive I can kiss my speedometer goodbye.

I'll have to think about this......probably next year when I need to change the clutch.

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Base transmission selected: 94-01 US B16A/ITR
1st gear 3.230
2nd gear 2.105
3rd gear 1.458
4th gear 1.107
5th gear 0.848
6th gear -
Final drive 4.400
Tire diameter in inches 24.1
Maximum engine speed (RPM) 8000
Cruise speed (MPH) 70


Gear ShiftRPM Speed @ 8000 RPM
1st N/A 40.4
2nd 5214 61.9
3rd 5541 89.4
4th 6074 117.8
5th 6128 153.7
RPM in top gear at 70 mph: 3643

ITR tranny with 205/55/15 BFG's. 1 inch more diameter.

Yeah...that one inch makes a big difference there's no way I'm doing 40mph in 1st gear. It seems more like 35mph, if that. That brings up another good point, my speedometer maybe slightly off. When I shift out of second my guage is reading abouyt 58-60mph (and I shift at 8600rpm), but I think I maybe closer to 62mph at that point. I need a pace car I maybe going faster then I think.

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Well, I don't know about my speedometer, but my stock tach is somewhat off a little. I verified it at the DMV when they hook you up for the sniffer. It was consistantly off (I think mine was reading slightly higher)

Base transmission selected: 94-01 US B16A/ITR
Tire diameter in inches 23.1
Maximum engine speed (RPM) 8600
Cruise speed (MPH) 70


Gear ShiftRPM Speed @ 8600 RPM
1st N/A 41.6
2nd 5605 63.8
3rd 5957 92.1
4th 6530 121.3
5th 6588 158.4
RPM in top gear at 70 mph: 3801

At 8600 rpm you should be at 63.8 mph And if you take into account that the diameter may slightly increase on accleration it may be a hair over 64.

i didn't mention this in your drag racing thread because i didn't think 13" wheels would clear your brakes, but Exospeed was having a special over on Honda-tech on Lenso 13" wheels/slicks. It's $510 plus shipping which i dunno if it's good or bad really.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1513424

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OMG!!!! your right...forget it......I forgot the brakes!!! They won't fit

Not a chance!

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if you decide to get rid of it itr tranny i know pleanty of people would would give there left nutt for it, they would give you a ls tranny and some big cash for it, then you could change out your f/d and get a stronger diff in there also!!

You are right in that you can get a custom final drive. I thought you could get one for about $1,000. Considering the money you have in that CRX I wouldn't think ANOTHER thousand would shy you away from the mod. Me, I don't want to give up any power to gear ratios but then you have more power and torque than I do that is for sure. My ITR tranny with a 4.785 final drive still tops out right around 150mph which is still very fast in my book. Although the most I have seen on track with the car is 138mph down the back straight at Road Atlanta. My goal this year is to get the car to 142mph there. First may not last long but I love the way it runs through the gears.

Barry H.

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new F/d FTW

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JUST because I like you... Im willing to part with my LS tranny for your Type R tranny. Heck, KEEP the LSD!

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Cheap solution: LS trans. with LSD.
$$$$ solution: Custom gearing.

I agree with Barry that you have thrown more money in your CR-X than I've ever heard of, so if it's for something as vital as basic traction, it might be worth it. Like you have this badass ITR monster with a SC, then an LS trans? I dunno just doesn't sound right. I'm sure someone should be able to give you a deal, or find you one, since you've dumped so much cash flow already.

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Well I said earlier, although I like the LS trans gearing it's not going to work with my LSD and my axles. So when the time comes I'l probably change my final drive. I found a 4.07 but it's a grand. I'll do that when I change my clutch

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