Tim's FG project on his CRX - Tuner-Junction

xTimx · #1 (**permalink**) May 20th, 2008, 08:49 PM

well i came to conclusions that my huge sub box was weighing down my ass end of my car waaaaay too much...and every time i corner, the fender lip would start to rub on the tire.
so i took out the box....shit was heavy.

the next day (today)

well....i have started it.... and i had trouble from the start lolol

went and grabbed water and soap and cleaned it all up good.

when i started to lay down the masking tape..it would not stick at all. ( i was using the painters masking tape, baaad mistake!)

so i went out and i bought the really really good stuff. 3m automotive masking tape! it works GREAT!

i started laying down my tape, turns out i couldnt go fast cause now my bad back memories were starting to catch up to me. my lower back is hell now.

but i layed the tape down, grabbed my spray adhesive and sprayed it down good, grabbed the foil and went to town. here's some progress pics so far. hopefully tonight i can lay down a layer of FG.

layed down the tape

then sprayed it with adhesive and then layed down some foil with my roller

thats all for now...my back is seriously in agony...i can not slouch over

i'll try and lay down a layer of FG tonight and then let it dry over night.

Q is....do i lay down wax as a mold release agent....or go lazy and just lay the FG right away...

xTimx · #2 (**permalink**) May 22nd, 2008, 12:47 AM

k well today i went and bought the wax for the mold release..
layed it all down.....got her nice and lubed up lol

got geared up and messured out my resin to 8oz, and hardener. layed on my first batch of fiberglass..

well i can honestly tell you that it was a failure cause with in minutes the mix started to harden and gel up really good. the fiberglass was shit too so i started over.

i quickly through it out and i went and made up another batch, this time at 16oz. and put a lil bit less hardener in...well it was fine...but it still gelled up really fast but now as fast as the first...
so then i garbaged that!

went and quickly made up a 3rd batch. and put a lot less hardener in, and this time i got it all layed down after 3 (well 2 per say) attempts.

let me tell you....for a first experience with FG, its TRICKY,

first of all its hard to work with cause you have to work fast and its sticky too and you have to work the fibers just ever so slightly

though...i think i know what i did wrong. when i was doing the glassing, i would tear up one or two pieces of glass, and wet it down. then decide no...this isnt the way to do it...then i started to soak it a little. went back and forth between soaking and wetting.

then i tried a little trick with brushing on the resin on the mold to help the fiberglass stick and then stipple it.

and the other downfall is this stuff is THIN matting. so what i wanna try and do is before i take out the mold..i wanna try and do another layer of FG over top to make sure this will cover all the area's of the mold.

it was hard to see what was covered and what was not cause the matting was so thin!

anyways. here's the pics of my glassing progress.

xTimx · #3 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2008, 03:21 AM

UPDATE:

so i go over to my buddies place, and what i thought i was gonna lay down another layer of fiberglass...we just decided to pull it out of the car...

so here we are the both of us, trying to pull this out of the car.....uh huh....it aint budging.

why?????????

well apparently it was cause of the little dip on the bottom!! it was INSANE to get this thing out...if i had of layed more layers down, it would of been impossible to get out..

so nearly 30 mins pass by, and you have to remember...i put tape down....tinfoil AND wax for a mold release and it still wasnt budging!

so finally it pops out...it had a few cracks in it, but thats ok. it actually came out great

well my friend knows lots of bout fiberglassing and such so we mixed up at batch of resin, and pooled it into the bottom corner and painted it all around the enclosure.

thats as far as i got to, tomorrow night will be adding in a layer of matting, then i have to fab up the MDF, and rings, what we're gonna do is we're gonna add like 3 more layers of matting, then use kitty hair on her.

hope you enjoy...thanx for looking this far

jadkar · #4 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2008, 08:15 AM

This is a very cool thread. FG is one thing I have never been able to do and I had no idea how to make a perfect mold in the car. I never thought of using masking tape and applying the FG right to the surface, Very awesome!! can't wait to see the finished product.

Pooch 1069 · #5 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2008, 01:11 PM

Looks great Tim, I definitely want to see this ASAP so get rollin' on this!

xTimx · #6 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jadkar

This is a very cool thread. FG is one thing I have never been able to do and I had no idea how to make a perfect mold in the car. I never thought of using masking tape and applying the FG right to the surface, Very awesome!! can't wait to see the finished product.

there's more than just laying down tape...but lots of people said you can just lay down tape then FG right over top that.

well....yes and no..

what i did was tape, then layed down the tinfoil ontop of the tape with spray adhesive then i applied turtle wax to the mold so that it'll pop right out with no complications..

or so i thought...

well it WOULD of popped right out except that it was literally jammed into the corner with all the curves and dips and stuff.

so it took us 30mins to pop the mold out.

xTimx · #7 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2008, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pooch 1069

Looks great Tim, I definitely want to see this ASAP so get rollin' on this!

thanx bud!! i cant wait till its done.

i layed down another layer of fiberglass last night. fixed up the corner a lil bit too.

i wasnt very pleased with the 2nd laying of the glass, there was tons of air pockets in it...plus i ran out of resin too so i did miss a few spots.

thats ok... cause tonight i'll be laying down some kitty hair, short strand by evercoat.

once that dries i'll sand it all down, then i'll cut my subwoofer rings then get ready to start mounting the ring to the enclosure...

i'm also doing one thing at a time too, and i know for next time what to do for the other corner when i start to glass it.

xTimx · #8 (**permalink**) May 25th, 2008, 01:07 AM

UPDATE:

please dont shit on me....lolol

friend told me to go ahead and lay down the kitty hair...

so i did....

i didnt know how thick to put it on..but i know it looks like shit right now, but that'll be taken care of when i start to sand it down good! HAVE FAITH IN ME PEOPLE!!

NO FLAMING!!!! lmao.

but this is the way my buddy did it with his friends enclosure and all of his enclosures as well..and they're rock solid!

xTimx · #9 (**permalink**) May 25th, 2008, 01:07 AM

i also have drawn down ideas of what i would like my amp rack to be...lol then i went around and asked people which drawing was they're fav.

so which is your Fav.!????

njn63 · #10 (**permalink**) May 25th, 2008, 08:47 PM

Project looks very cool. I've read a lot about fiberglass but never messed around with it. I might... nevermind, not even going to talk about it because it'll never happen. :P

drummingpariah · #11 (**permalink**) May 26th, 2008, 04:21 AM

I just repaired my fg bumper this weekend, and it really was a nightmare. I need to do a bunch of sanding to make it right, but I'm off to a good start. Your box is starting to look pretty impressive, though. As much as I'm against sound systems, you're definitely pulling it off in a classy way.

xTimx · #12 (**permalink**) May 26th, 2008, 02:53 PM

thanx you guys!! wow. this is so awesome!! ahahah

last night i added another layer of kitty hair to the voids in the enclosure.

today i have to trim the enclosure, get out the router and start makeing my rings for the sub, mount the rings (hopefully it'll stick to the kitty hair) stretch the polyester. and hopefully once thats done...go to town on another 6 or 7 layers of fiberglass.
cover it with rage gold and start sanding it down like a mofo.

drummingpariah · #13 (**permalink**) May 26th, 2008, 04:06 PM

Heh, my bumper only got 3 layers, and looks horrid, but that's just peachy by me. It's starting to get up to 'mad scientist' standards now. I can't wait to see the end result.

Wouldn't you want to accommodate for your amp in this fg design? It looks like you're only planning for speakers there.

xTimx · #14 (**permalink**) May 26th, 2008, 04:39 PM

well i was thinking about that......

my ideas are spur of the moment, not really planned out lolol.

i know what enclosure i'm gonna do....
its the one with the most ticks in it (middle left)

that way i can maybe grab a honda badge and place it in the middle or something ya know?

xTimx · #15 (**permalink**) May 26th, 2008, 04:43 PM

well i used the dremel to cut up the enclosure and make it neat.

grabbed it, put it into the corner of the car...

fuckers warped....damn it anyways!!!!

it prolly warped when we were pulling it out of the mold, cause we were really giviner!

but thats ok....i have kitty hair i can lay down on the sides of the enclosure, it'll be fine!

there's always a solution to everything!! i just know now what NOT to do when i start glassing the other corner of the hatch! haha

ATISTANG · #16 (**permalink**) May 28th, 2008, 10:44 AM

your way more ambitious than me, it would take me 5 months to get that far lol

xTimx · #17 (**permalink**) May 28th, 2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ATISTANG

your way more ambitious than me, it would take me 5 months to get that far lol

haha thanx man..i'm getting frustrated cause i cant even make a perfect circle and shit

so i went out and bought a couple of stuff from Home Depot and make a homemade circle jig out of steel threaded rod, 4 hex nuts and a eye bolt.

it works pretty good..now i'm not wasting wood anymore trying to get perfect rings

xTimx · #18 (**permalink**) June 1st, 2008, 01:40 AM

UPDATE:

well i have been neglecting my project a lil bit lol things have been getting frustrating. but thats alright.

tonight i got a lil bit done, i finally cut all my MDF rings for my subs to mount to the enclosure..

tomorrow will be to mount the rings to the enclosure, lay the kitty hair on the sides of the enclosure and hopefully stretch the polyester!!

and when that happens....you'll be able to finally see my enclosure take form! hehe

here's a couple of update pics

The Subs wont be mounted like that....they'll be mounted upside down onto the rings.

xTimx · #19 (**permalink**) June 2nd, 2008, 08:27 PM

UPDATE:

today is a slow progress day..

i went ahead and brought out the dowels and mounted the ring to the enclosure with hot glue.

it was tricky at first but i made it after 2-3hrs lol

here's some pics

then after that was done, i took it out and layed the polyester onto the ring and see what all i had to do for trimming. the sharp edges on the top of the enclosure will have to be rounded over. then i can stretch the fabric over it and start glueing it down

xTimx · #20 (**permalink**) June 3rd, 2008, 12:48 AM

UPDATE:

a really good sexy update!! lol

like i said in the last post i was going to stretch the fleece over the enclosure.

and well i did....lolol

there was a few rips on the edges but thats ok cause i just used a but of hot glue on the edges to keep the cloth from ripping more.

after it was all wrapped up i sat it in the corner of the car..OMG...let me tell you..pure sex!!! i love it! i'm very proud of myself and i cant wait for the outcome!

FINALLY some REAL progress!!!

so here's the skeleton out of the car

then i started to wrap the fleece around the skeleton

so then afterwards it was all wrapped up i sat it inside my car in the corner....and WOW...yummy sexy posing! hahaha