ok i just did a system insall on a 04 4runner with the 10 speaker JBL system.

first of all, what a bitch! there are no wiring harnesses and i had to do an amp bypass and make a custom harness by locating the wires for each individual speaker and then cutting and rewiring them. either way, got that done and the pioneer components i installed were OMG wow. so in light of that, im spendidng 800 on a stereo system.

im starting with

2 12" 1000 watt peak subs
2 6"x9" speakers
2 6.5" speakers plus 2 tweeters

now heres my issue.

i can get a 2 channel and 4 channel amp, both pushing 1200 watts. i figured i could run the frnt stage off the 4 chan, and the subs off the 2, but bridge them.

but thats a lot of power used and i dont have my music crazy loud. would it be more sensible to run:

4 channel amp with front L+R controlling front stage and then Rear L+R controlling subs

headunit (60 watt per channel) controlling front stage and then 2 channel 1200watt amp controlling subs

or the whole 2 amp setup



what i want from the system is balance and clarity. i like hiphop but im more likely to be listening to some pink floyd, some hardcore punk or heavy metal, so i like to either hear the kick drum clearly, the bass thumping or the bass guitar twanging, all depending on the music. i cant stand the way my system now just has bass, and no diversity.

right now, my sytem can get loud, but when it does, its distorted pretty bad. if i ran the front stage from the headunit and just replaced the speakers, will that clear up distortion or should i get a separate amp for the front?

lastly, all the shit im getting is premier by pioneer, and all the top models in each speaker catagory. the amps are also premier. im set on teh speakers, so bash them if you like, but i just need to know if i should get one amp or two and how to set it up well. thanks!

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just for kicks:

Pioneer TS-C160R 6.5" 250W Component Speakers



PIONEER PREMIER PRS-D4000F AMPLIFIER 2/3/4 CH 1200W AMP




PIONEER PRS-D2000T PREMIER AMP 1200W 1/2-CH AMPLIFIER




Pioneer Premier TS-W126DVC 12" 1000W DVC Subwoofer




NEW Pioneer Premier TS-D901P 6 X 9" REV-series 2-Way Sp

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To find out witch wires gose with what take a 9v and tuch them.

I would just run all the small ones to the head.

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the 9v battery trick would have saved you alot of time. speakers will pop slightly and youll know which is which. If you want really good sound and what not and money is not an issue run fronts to a two channel amp, run the rears to a two channel amp and then run the subs off of a really large amp bridged. or you can run the subs independantly on a smaller single amp bridged so you still get power. but you will need a very good cap and maybe an extra battery for just the system so you dont tax your alternator.

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ok cool. no amp it is!

and i did use a similar trick to the 9v test. i spliced an rca cable from my ipod and used the two wires fromn the right channel and just touched them to each set of wires while my gf told me which speaker was making noise. it only took about 10 minutes but was still a pain.

im gonna order all the shit now, i cant wait!

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if you are going to have the fronts off an amp run the rears off an amp too. if you dont it will sound like crap. the rears will distort trying to keep up with the volume of the fronts. I say get a 4ch for front and rear and a mono or 2ch (depending on the subs you get)

well i bought all the shit minus the 4 chanel amp. i have one now but im trying to sell it since its a sony and i want all pioneer stuff. im going to see how i liek it with the front stage off of the new head unit i also just bought lol and if its not enough power, ill grab the 4 channel or use my old one and jsut hide it so nobody sees the ugly sony.

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just for what its worth, the peak powers they list arent as important as the RMS ratings. also i would recommend getting a set of 6.5" coax's for rear fill since by nature round woofers will take more before distorting versus 6x9s.

you may want to seriously rethink running the front stage off the head unit. components sound like poop without an amp.

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hmm thats a thought. so if i get the two amps, am i gonna need a cap?? i dont want to kill the alternator if im listening to music on normal volume

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caps are really ment for the subwoofer amp, cause thats where the real power is to make your subs go boom, caps are just a preventive thing if your headlights and interior lights are dimming when the bass hits. keep in mind you have to properly charge the cap too. as for a second battery, alot of people have the mistake of taking the cheap route and getting the second battery, but that wont solve all your probs. if you want your system to be tip top condition. get yourself a hi output alternator, and get a yellow top optima battery. then you wont need the cap or the second battery.

just use your 2/3/4 channel amp. hook it up in 4 channel. the amp will run all your component speakers.

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