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June 3rd, 2006, 12:06 AM
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im just staying n/a cause im a chickin s*** 
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June 3rd, 2006, 12:27 AM
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this thread makes me lol.
the only worth while engines go go naturally aspirated are big V8s
but, then again, i guess its all personal preference, i mean, if you want to spend a couple thousand dollars and still be slow, i guess thats cool
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June 3rd, 2006, 12:34 AM
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Now why is na slow? I had a fairly fast na motor that could hang with alot of big engine cars. A properly built na can be extremely fast. Again its always personal preference but i kinda like the idea of being able to beat cars that are either boosted or supercharged and then telling the other driver that you are all motor. or beating a car with a bigger motor and then telling them you got a natural 4 or something like that.
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June 4th, 2006, 02:42 PM
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people bash everything. No matter what you do, someone will have something to say about it. People talk shit about vettes, civics, vipers, ferraris, etc... N/A is bets, boost is better, Drag racing is gay, drifting is stupid, nascar is dumb, hollister is for fags (  ), rap is gay, whatever. No matter what, you wont make everyone happy, so whatever you do, make one person happy, yourself, because in the end, what really matters, is how YOU feel about YOUR life. dont live your life for others, its too short to only make other people happy.
which kinda makes me think. If it wasnt cool to modify hondas (not wasnt cool like before FATF, but like, a nerdy thing to do, like people make fun of you and shit, would you still do it? would you still have the passion you do now, or would you stop because you got  for doing something you love?
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June 12th, 2006, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Blake
different strokes for different folks.
personally i find it kinda pointless to drive a 500whp FWD car on the streets. And going fast in a straight line is only part of my build. Not only will i be goin straight, i will also be taking corners. Cant exit make a clean exit out of a corner with a car that is just gonna spin the tires.
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w3rd, thats why they made the f20b
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June 12th, 2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Disillusioned
this thread makes me lol.
the only worth while engines go go naturally aspirated are big V8s
but, then again, i guess its all personal preference, i mean, if you want to spend a couple thousand dollars and still be slow, i guess thats cool
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apparently you have never been introduced to Honda-Tech's all motor forum.
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July 6th, 2006, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ezeedee
people bash everything. No matter what you do, someone will have something to say about it. People talk shit about vettes, civics, vipers, ferraris, etc... N/A is bets, boost is better, Drag racing is gay, drifting is stupid, nascar is dumb, hollister is for fags (  ), rap is gay, whatever. No matter what, you wont make everyone happy, so whatever you do, make one person happy, yourself, because in the end, what really matters, is how YOU feel about YOUR life. dont live your life for others, its too short to only make other people happy.
which kinda makes me think. If it wasnt cool to modify hondas (not wasnt cool like before FATF, but like, a nerdy thing to do, like people make fun of you and shit, would you still do it? would you still have the passion you do now, or would you stop because you got  for doing something you love?
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thats a good question and honestly yes, I can say that I would. I do this all for myself, to see what I can personally throw together, sure I may not make my own exhuast or intake but in the end even making your own build threw parts can be rewarding Building a good car, wiether a show car, street monster, drag strip terror, low riding drifter, auto crossing manic anything is an artform to me. Ever bit should be calculated and be interged into the car to make it better as a whole. This hobby is a passon for the people that really get into it and when you see a car that makes you take a double take as it drives next to you or passes down the road you can tell and see that. There is a differance (to me at least) between throw on parts or actually upgrading a car, and I see myself upgrading a car. If people bash me personally for it then they can go eat a pile of doo-doo. I always found it funny that their seems to be soo much hate for N/A builds and nitrous builds. I guess it's just miss understood by a lot is all hehe
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July 6th, 2006, 04:37 AM
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apparently you have never been introduced to Honda-Tech's all motor forum.
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well its not like he has some greatly performing subaru anyway lol
hell i know for a fact that my s15 cant hold up to that fuckin NA 2.0 ARTA mr2.......
i appreciate all forms really.....just dont like haters.
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July 6th, 2006, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Disillusioned
this thread makes me lol.
the only worth while engines go go naturally aspirated are big V8s
but, then again, i guess its all personal preference, i mean, if you want to spend a couple thousand dollars and still be slow, i guess thats cool
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you sound like utter emo shit gtfo.
since when was building your car to be the fastest shit out there on the road?
[don't take this seriously]
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July 6th, 2006, 10:57 AM
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n/a is cool but 4 cyl n/a is kinda boring I think. if half the people i see who went n/a actually did road courses or something... I'd be cool. but most don't seem to.
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July 7th, 2006, 07:19 AM
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I'd reckon NA tunig is much more difficult than turbo/superchagring; the lines are very, very fine and to extract even more power out of such well-engineered machines like the S2K and the MR-S, its very difficult because these systems are close to perfect. The only thing restricting them are emmissions, so after you optimize the system after bypassing the emmissions equipment...you've hit a plateau.
Here is where the fun starts; and this is where I really bow down to the hardcore NA practitioners. In this case, knowledge literally means power. Its through their understanding of modern engine technology that they are able to extract even more from NA engines that have been engineered close to the limit from the factory. I think in this day and age the art of NA is somthing that's overlooked, but make no misake its a bloody difficult discipline to be in. Its also much more comeptitive than being turbocharged in that who knows more = goes faster. And plenty of people who are highly proficient in NA now their shit down to the last formula.
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July 7th, 2006, 08:02 AM
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i agree to an extent. but there's nothing like the spool up feel of a turbo car and the sound of the wastegate blaring open to me.
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July 7th, 2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by M.A.R.C.
i agree to an extent. but there's nothing like the spool up feel of a turbo car and the sound of the wastegate blaring open to me.
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Yup, its an experience in itself I have to admit. Especially a well-thought out turbo system which is responsive as well as powerful.
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July 9th, 2006, 05:32 AM
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hahha...you a dentist? im laughing now imagining some of the comments you would make to patients....sam says: "you know.. swallowing does make your teeth whiter...here try this" [>> ziip]
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July 21st, 2006, 10:38 AM
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All I care to say is NA has limitations that FI does not.. I have nothing against NA. Its great but has its limitations.
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July 21st, 2006, 05:32 PM
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All I care to say is NA has limitations that FI does not.. I have nothing against NA. Its great but has its limitations.
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that's what makes it such a challenge. some people like the challenge more than the easy path to big numbers.
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July 21st, 2006, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by macbasq
that's what makes it such a challenge. some people like the challenge more than the easy path to big numbers.
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n/a isnt' so bad... but displacement helps a shitload and the 4banger guys don't have much room for that.
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July 24th, 2006, 01:12 PM
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i don't know why anyone would bash N.A. That's proves the potential of the motor if you can be really fast w/o having to add boost... (NOS, S/C or T/C).
I would got T/C personally, but I have mad respect for anyone who is N/A.
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