retro's thoughts on head...and other things - build thread.

[Retroshark]

so part one of my mod list for the sumemr is done.

my wheels are primed painted and clear coated. i also washed and polished my car with that ice synthetic polish. its pretty badass and is much easier than waxing.

anyways, pt.2 pt.3 etc include new motor and trans, new suspension, a tint and fender rolling plus wheel spacers for some flush action. but until i get the money and time to do that shit (motor being the first thing) just enjoy these lovely photos:

[HondaGuy1122]

those look daaayum sessi.

[xTimx]

so when the fuck are you gonna get your stereo done then?!

[Retroshark]

tuesday the amps and wires are going in. weds the speakers are being hooked up. thats only because i get the speakers the next day, but the subs come on tues. i also gotta refit the box a little, so thats parts of it

[njn63]

very nice. Just wish it was a tad lower.

[chris_s14]

cot damn marc how many threads did you make about your car already? you should just stick to one build up thread haha.

everything is lookin good. it needs to go lower!

[Retroshark]

it is going lower. im getting skunk2 coilovers soon but i cant drop it unless my fenders are rolled. it will just be too prone to rubbing even with the camber. i may get the coilovers and just slam it, then see what needs to be fixed and then raise it up, make the modifications to the fender-wells and then be done. its mainly the back ones because i want it flush but im not running stretched tire fitment so i may just sink the rears just a little. the fronts on the other hand have never rubbed now and i take bumps pretty fast at times. if i drop the front then i should be fine with no rolling.

i may just use the baseball bat method if all else fails. i dont know how much fender rolling is around ATL but i doubt its cheap enough for me to afford. but yea, im probably dorpping it an inch in the rear and an inch and a half from what it is now in the front.

the h22 will also alter the drop alot, hense the adjustables rather than new springs alone.

[ezeedee]

why a h22 and not a c35?

[Retroshark]

c35? what car is that motor from? and the h22 is more compatible and requires minimal modifications to the drivetrain.

[SCGMafia]

Originally Posted by Retroshark

I like that shot...

how's the Jiffy Lube gig goin?

[chris_s14]

Originally Posted by Retroshark

c35? what car is that motor from? and the h22 is more compatible and requires minimal modifications to the drivetrain.

i think the RL but i could be wrong

[Ricky]

pimping

[Retroshark]

Originally Posted by SCGMafia

I like that shot...

how's the Jiffy Lube gig goin?

its good, but i nearly quit the other day. i got acused of not doing a tire rotation properly even when the customer was watching me do it. turns out he was scamming us for some bullshit and i got off big time. they were all really sorry for acusing me of it. other than that, its all gravy.

ill have to put in a lot of hours if i want my h22 but in 10 days my gf is going to south africa so im gonan work my ass off while shes away since i wont have any commitments.

[Retroshark]

the main reason im getting the H is cause i have a plan.

my car will never have 50 50 weight distribution or double wishbone suspension, so im going to build it accordingly. im mainly looking for a good all-round street car, with some possible downhill/uphill racing action too. but i do also want all out power AND daily driveability. now ive talked abotu this before but id love to have a supercharged H22 engine under the hood, but with firewall restrictions, that seems to be a problem. however, i have never seen proof that its been tried, so im going to initially shoot for a supercharged motor if its possible, but most likely, im going to build a turbo motor instead.

my real goal is to be putting down at least 350 horsepower to the wheels. initially though, ill run the motor with the stock internals on a mild turbo build, most likely a kit, and then get the bottom end built, including sleeving, pistons etc. with the acompanyment of some good head work, i should be well in reach of the 350 hp mark.

most likely ill progress from 200hp stock motor, to 300 with turbo kit to 350 with higher boost and a full build, but it would definatly have to have a lot of room to make more power. id love to run 12's but 13's will be excellent. i also want a certain ammount of uniqueness to the car, especially with the large number of people running both turbo and h22 swaps on this model accord.

In time i really want this project to not only be one meant for speed, but also for comfort and reliability. i dont want to have my car down all the time, i cant afford it, and i also dont want people uncomfortable in the seats. so no ugly stripped interiors or super noisy engines. if i go turbo, it will be stealthy and the powerband will be even, despite the fact that id probably take power losses.

so yea, cliff notes:

eventually want boosted,built but tame H22 swapped car for daily driving but able to be raced.

want the car to be borderlining "VIP" with a clean user friendly interior, with maximum safety and minimum aftermarket bling.

car has to be low profile but recognizable from every other swapped accord out there.

must also be reliable and easy to drive, so no stiff clutches past a certain extent.

[KibaRUN]

keep it to one thread....enough is enough

[carboncivic]

looking good mark, take your time and don't skip any details

[Ricky]

Originally Posted by Retroshark

its good, but i nearly quit the other day. i got acused of not doing a tire rotation properly even when the customer was watching me do it. turns out he was scamming us for some bullshit and i got off big time. they were all really sorry for acusing me of it. other than that, its all gravy.

ill have to put in a lot of hours if i want my h22 but in 10 days my gf is going to south africa so im gonan work my ass off while shes away since i wont have any commitments.

for awhile I wanted the H but after doing some research and talking to a few people Ive come to the conclusion that it really isnt worth the money. Yardy8301 did f series turbo and another guy on here did the h22 swap. Yardy ended up spending much less on his project and was much faster. He was putting down to the wheels more then the h was putting down to the crank. After awhile the guy that had the h22 decided that he would have been better off if he had gone f series turbo. he ended up selling his accord. H22 is str8 but the f22 is a better platfrom imo. You have to deal with alot of issues when it comes to the h22. N/A its a much better platform I will admit that. Boosting wise ive never been to impressed with the ludes. You have alot of issues to work out. sleeves etc, your better off bosting the f and the whole project will end up being way cheaper.

As for the supercharger idea, it has been attempted it was either some one on accordingly done or accord tuner. I forget where it was but some one attempted to do it and I forget whether or not he did it but while he was doing the project he had to cut into the fire wall. Its really hard to do because the engine sits way back there.

Really what you have to think about is cost benefit. How much is all that ish going to cost you. The h22 swap alone might get to the 2k mark. Then how much is the s/c going to run you? Keep in mind the limitation of your platform and what your going to do with it. Take a look at f series turbo. What your going to spend on building the engine will be less then the h swap itself. All that engine really needs to start climbing in boost levels is pistons, rods and an h22 crank shaft. Yardy is pulling around 190 somthing hp and 200 tq on a 900 dollar set up that he peiced together. If you can do that you will be content for awhile then you can buy another f for relatively cheap. Alot cheaper then a h22. Build that engine while you drive around the set up and then swap it in once its built.

Keep in mind this to, if you blow a h22 thats what another 800 bones for a new engine? How much is a f22? IMO its really not worth it you will have so much more fun spoolin than you will blown. The power from a roll is freaking amazing

[Ricky]

moved to accord forum

[yardy8301]

um ricky, you do know im making much more than 190whp right? a lot more actually lol.

[Ricky]

well excuse me sir, so lenny after a minor investment on the turbo setup and after being in sids h22 set up which would you take after being in both